Acid Eiffel has something similar to The Art Of Trance* - Deeper Than Deep E.P. (Third Eye Mix) in the acid line. Both tracks released in '93, Deeper than Deep was supposedly out in March as per discogs, instead Acid Eiffel is so far unknown which month it was out. I wonder if it's a coincidence or if one artist was inspired, directly or subconsciously by the other. Choice were a trio whereas AoT just one man.

I don't hear any similarities, it's just a generic acid sound extremely popular at the time.

Easily one of the greatest techno records ever recorded. I never seem to tire of this one. It just so good.

Ah! Sorry bro. I thought you were talking about How Do You Plead? As that was what I was looking at when I read your message :/

Never mind time sigs.this is a tune that is absolutely bless.ive ended many a party with this as an outrow. dance to rock.they all love it.x

Gotta get your sigs right dude. where the hell would we all be without accurate analysis of time signatures in music? Right down the shitter, that's where! :)

Could someone who has really analyzed this track tell me how many different time signatures are overlapped? It's at least two.

Check your PMs. :-) We are talking about Acid Eiffel, right? "How Do You Plead," the b-side, is about 6'35".

I'm interested to know the source of the 13+ minute version. I have the original Fragile imprint, which comes in at about 6 1/2 minutes. As for everything else, I'm sorry but I'm just not hearing it. Everything remains in perfect 4/4 time at an unchanging 129.87 BPM (according to Traktor). I've split the track up into bits, taking multiple loops at various points along the track to confirm this. At no point do any of the elements go out of synch, speed up or slow down in any way. I'd like to hear the long version. What label is it on? Perhaps I can get a copy. Failing that, I think we're probably going to have to agree to disagree because I'm as convinced that you are wrong as you are convinced that I am :)

After re-listening (again!), I think it's 4/4 at two different tempos, the faster of which is exactly fast enough that it is 5 beats for 4... so 4/4 at 80 bpm overlaid with 4/4 at 100 bpm as example tempos (it's more like 132 & 105.6). One of the way the song builds excitement in different parts is that the slower tempo part fades out and the kickdrum ramps up so everything is synced up in your brain. The Twin Peaks-ish synth chords are at the faster tempo, but you could call it 1/4 as it's only 4-count increment notes. The version I have is 13'32". If you have the same version, listen at 7'24" and you'll hear what I'm talking about... the slower tempo strobing synth fades out completely and suddenly the song snaps into a different groove.

Hey man. So, properly analyzed it now. Took a four bar loop to be sure. The whole thing is in 4/4 dude. The synth (chords) plays 3 bars on the C# then 1 bar on the D (not actually C# and D of course but they are the root notes) and this repeats throughout. The lead acid synth keeps the same 4/4 time. One thing it does do however is change its riff at the end of bar 8 ( counting from when the kick drum comes in) for an 8th of a bar or so. Perhaps it's that change that's throwing you off?

Listen to the beginning minute -- the synth is in 4/4, but the bass drum is in 5/4. They keep getting out of sync, and then re-syncing on the downbeat, so the listener always off-balance / re-balancing. I'm not sure about the Twin Peaks-ish mournful chords, which is the main reason I asked.

It's contains only one time signature ( 4/4 ) throughout. Perhaps you mean something else? Time signature simply refers to how many beats there are in a bar of music. Aside from a few exceptions (some rare tunes are written in 4/3 time for instance) all dance music is written in 4/4 time. That is, 4 beats to the bar. This track is no different. Hope that helps :)

timeless untouched unparalleledso much depth to this oneacid eiffel takes you on quite the journey

If all you are looking for is Acid Eiffel on its own side, grab the repress of this Digweed comp. It has Acid Eiffel by its self on the A-side and its still being sold on places like Juno for less than $10. Here is the discogs page for it tho.https://www.discogs.com/John-Digweed-Live-In-Miami-15/release/5852858

How Do You Plead? -> quasi-Todd Terry punchy beats meets Carl Craig Detroit techno/house melancholia = guilty as charged. i've had this in my stacks for ~20 years now, timeless.. Acid Eiffel is of course awesome, but this is the one I picked this one up for and it's still a prized cut in the collection after all of these years.

The first time I heard this track was on the Energy Zurich rave in Switzerland in 1993 - I have that moment captured with my video camera :) it was a very intense moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOCtnmEQnVY

Anybody that keeps crediting Garnier with Acid Eiffel please read the bloody credits...I mean no less than Ludovic Navarre and Shazz were involved in creating the masterpiece...it's the same on youtube. Wtf.

Are You able to read properly? Take a look at the credits, given on the labels.

After hearing of the tragedy in Paris on November 13th, 2015, this track immediately came to mind. In times of darkness, music has a way of being that beacon of hope. I refuse to immerse myself in 24 hour news, or horrid debates about why. Turn everything off, hit play, and let Laurent remove you from this world for 13 minutes plus. This track encompasses so much for so mNy different moods. When I listen now, I think of the beauty that still exists in this world. For 13 minutes, this track gives you pain, love, loss, hope, joy, and beauty. All without a single word. True music transcends language. Evil will always emerge with the cowards, with the weak...but music and love has a much larger audience. It never hides, it never dies. This track will always represent, from now on, those lost on this day. The cowards will be forgotten.

I had the same reaction. Just needed to heard something beautiful at that time. Along with a Deepside "French". I cried, but eventually felt warm inside.

I heard "Acid Eiffel" on internet radio and had hard time finding it, I accidentally found it on one of my compilations (The History of Trance) which is the only one of few to feature it uncut and unmixed. So that was exciting. Then I proceeded to listen to it, but for some reason I wanted to hear it again and then again. So on and so forth I have been listening to it on loop for a bit over a week...home, car, at work, here and there a bit. I don't know why but it always sounds different. And now I have these things in my brain...I don't know I think they are thoughts. I keep thinking about people and life and our future. As if I was standing on top of a really tall structure and staring into the cloudy murky sky. Thinking what are these clouds going to bring. That's it, I am going to buy 2 synthesizers and I am continuing this music. I don't care about dubstep, I want more of this. I love you music, you always find ways to surprise me even after all these years...

Acid Eiffel is a classic track but I don't understand all the comments about it being 'Detroit'. I'd say it sounds more like Chicago (Acid) House (which Juan Atkins called the type of music he and his fellow Detroit producers were making at the time Techno to differentiate it from), and early tracks by Gerald Simpson (A Guy Called Gerald), both were the soundtrack to Manchester and the Hacienda in the late 80's where Laurent Garnier was living and working at the time, (and where he took his first steps on his musical career so would have obviously been a big influence on him) combined with more trancey elements. I'd say it has a unique French cool, melancholy sound to it. It does have a soundtrack like quality which some Detroit Techno tracks have, but in the latter I hear something more hi tech.Sometimes funk based, sometimes harder edged. Sometimes soulful, sometimes raw and uncomprisingly political. Sometimes bleak and dystopian, sometimes beautiful and shimmering. But always futurisitic, and with a much more machine oriented sound. Like they are letting the machines speak for themselves and creating something of a paradox. Future where there is no future. The beauty in decay. Creating something filled with warmth and emotion out of something cold and lifeless. Almost like the machines have a soul. Either way, whatever you want to call it, it is a great piece of music. So enjoy the Acid Eiffel. The view from up there is spectacular.

Acid Eiffel best deep acid track in the world

The greatest techno record of all time? Quite possibly.

Ironically everything what Detroit ever was about got culminated in 1993 already with the 11 minute long epic journey Acid Eiffel.

You misunderstand irony. And this record was mastered by a Detroit engineer and released on a Detroit label. It wouldn't even exist without Detroit

Nonsense !

No disrespect but to make a comment like that I would say you don't really understand the music of Detroit.

...and was produced by three french guys ;-)